One of the classic examples of contemplative activism is the difference between the kairos moment and maybe the desire to be seen or heard. Often some people are wired for activism and others are not. A lot of us who come from that kind of action place have reasons for that, have motivations for that. In myself I was raised with a very kind of abusive father and so I realized early on the first couple of years my activist career that my kind of angry way of coming you know coming out, I was a very rebellious activist and it was really expressing feelings that had been beneath the surface for many years. I was angry at patriarchy. I was angry at a lot of things.
And as I grew as an activist, I needed, I kind of began to realize that I needed to have an awareness of when I was coming from a place of kind of needing to be heard or needing to be seen versus the kairos moment which is when you know truth is wanting to be spoken. You know that the spirit is kind of at your back and pushing you to speak something that needs to be heard that needs to be in the room.