I'm amazed too because  it's so simple. See if this were some kind of  rocket science where we had to get the brilliant minds to  figure out like Einstein how to do the math to  get someone to the moon. But all we're saying is people  are hurting from past events and there is a cure. And that cure has not been  discovered until recently. And now what we have to do is  get people to understand that, it is that simple.
 And when we talk to  people about it, I had a undergraduate in my office  just the other day and she says, "This is insane!" And she doesn't mean it's bad. That's that expression in  America for this is so amazing,  I can't believe it. And it's only because we're  simply saying let's have those who are in prison tell their  stories of abuse on them and give them a chance to  truly get rid of their anger, so that it doesn't happen. And we now are starting  to do that. And she thought that was the most  amazing thing she'd ever heard. But it's so simple. It's totally simple. That's what I find  amazing about it. Anybody can do this. You don't have to have  a PHD to do it.